Suka
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 06:46 PM |
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Hi all
I too have fallen victim to the roulette systems that fail.. luckily i never lost any money (used bonus money) but my hopes and dreams were shattered 
Anyways decided to explore blackjack and found this site.
After a few hours of research i have come to a conclusion and would apreciate it if you would comment or make a sugestion.
Heres my plan.. I live in South Africa (ZAR) so i think i have an advantage there. My Currency is weak so 100 pounds would be 1200 ZAR which is quite allot of "chips".
Indio Casino are offering a max 200% bonus up to 3000.. so i spend 1000 and get 3000...
now from what i understand the main objective is to meet the wagering requirments inorder to withdraw the bonus. so in this case i would have to wager 45000...
as you can imagine 1$ flat bets would take forever but i think i have a solution.
We all know martingale sucks balls. but in this case i think it will work magic!
If i limit the system to step 7 (64 chips) the max i will loose is 127 chips.
3000 - 127 = 2873..
now i havnt put this to the test. but in theory step 7 dosnt happen verry often at all and even if i loose, its still contributing to WR..
In order to loose (reach 1000 bankroll without reaching WR) i have to reach step 7 15 times.
But because im using martingale every bet is a win so after say 15-20 minutes i will make the 127 for the inevitable loss and so on.. by the end of it. i should be well above 3000... or atleast make a profit..
What do you guys think?
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FENDER
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 07:08 PM |
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Doesn't matter how you stake this, you will still end up losing the house advantage, which for Blackjack is 0.5%
On a 45,000 wr, you can expect to lose 225. The bonus is sticky, which means they take it back off you when you are finished. So you are just going to end up around 225 down.
What you need to to with these sorts of "sticky bonuses" is make the bonus work for you whilst you have it. That would mean large bets right at the start. If you can get well ahead, drop your stakes and grind out the remaining w/r. It is risky, but if you can get up to, say, 6000, then your sitting pretty
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Suka
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 08:26 PM |
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Thanks Fender ! ..
I wouldnt have known about that and gone ahead with it if you never replied when you did..
I have a few questions that i cant find answers to in the forum.. i hope you dnt mind helping me out. This all started when i got a free ebook.. and inside there was a link to the site.
anyway, whats confusing me is i still dont know what the "perfect betting system" is as talked about on the forum and the website.. It says i should use the cards which i do but is that all there is to it? pick a card and do as it says?
what if i have 16 and he's got 10.. the card says i should hit. but i would much rather stand then take the chance of busting myself ..
Thats takes me to another confusion.. it states. "never bust yourself" yet the betting card tells me to hit when i have 16?? Also on the ebook it clearly states never bust yourself.. inother words. anything higher that 13 you should stand and let the dealer bust.. but the cards controdict what ws said on the ebook..
please explain how the betting system works exactly, or point me in the right direction..
Thanks in Advance
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FENDER
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 09:00 PM |
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Sounds like the e book isn't much use. No-one likes to bust. Lets take an example of your 13 against a dealer 10. You don't want to bust, so you stand. Whats going to happen?
Well, you wont bust, but most times nor will the dealer. All the dealer needs now is anything between 17-21 to beat you. If you had taken another card you might have got a 6 or a 7 and ended with 19-20, which would give you a decent chance of winning
You should always follow the cards. They give you the best move for every situation. And yes hitting on 16 IS better than standing, this has been proven over millions of simulated hands. As indeed have all the moves on the cards.
What we do here is this: We only play with bonuses, this gives us a head start against the casino. Lets take a 100% bonus as an example. You deposit £100 and get a £100 bonus. Before you can withdraw any money you will have to play a certain amount, which is only fair, right.
Lets say you have to rollover £3000, could be 3000 £1 hands, if you wish, its up to you how you do it. The idea is to complete the rollover and still have most of the bonus money left when you have finished.
In the above example you would lose about £15, rolling over £3000 playing Blackjack. so you end up with a profit of £85.
All casino games have a built in casino advantage, but Blackjack has a very small one, about 0.5%, if you follow the advice on the cards. So you can see that most times you will make a decent profit.
That's the good news, the bad news is that these days, there aren't as many bonuses as there used to be. These are some of the best ones
http://www.onlineblackjackguide.com/casinorankings.html Check the terms before you start though, the rules change often.
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Macgyver
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 09:04 PM |
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I'd like to know what this e-book is that has a link to this forum ... I've never heard of Pete marketing the site this way.
Especially not with the "never bust" system that has been proven wrong (see the "Bad Strategies" section on the Wiz's blackjack section). 
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BPS
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 09:52 PM |
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I know of two ebooks that use give out Online Blackjack Guide as a free site to reference.
I think they charge for these books too.
pete
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Suka
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 10:06 PM |
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Thanks dudes
I have spent a few hours trying to find a casino that i can leach 
i have only found 1 and even that is a mission.. sportsbet. they only give you 25% of the bonus.. so u need to wager 1500 from only 250 ! lol
with regards to the ebook.. Its called secretofblackjack and it was free..
i talks about bonus hunting etc..
The Author is the owner of the site.. or so it seemed at the end of the book it said "click here to view my Forum"
Anyways. thanks it looks like i arrived a few years to late
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BPS
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Suka
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 11:41 PM |
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Sure Pete i will send it..
Only found 1 casino so far that offers a non sticky bonus..
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Suka
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| Sept 14, 2009 at 11:55 PM |
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I remember stubling across a website advertising a free blackjack system..
It only asked for my email.. so i gave it my spam adress and i got a email from "Kevin"
Here it is!Thanks for requesting a free copy of my eBoook - Secret of BJ. It has been very profitable for me and many others.. All I ask in return is take some of what you make with it and donate to a charitable cause. To download the pdf, click here I dont see the harm in this as he isnt charging for it maybe he is a fellow member spreading the word? .. but if you want to email the dude.. heres the senders adress aswell.. |
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FENDER
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| Sept 15, 2009 at 12:44 AM |
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What a pile of shit. Whoever wrote this, hasnt got a clue about how to play Blackjack.
"Dont double down or split, you might lose"
" stand on 12, even if the dealer has 10" 
Written by a complete idiot
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BPS
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| Sept 15, 2009 at 09:23 AM |
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Ahhhh, I remember this one. Who ever wrote this book, copied some pages from the site and placed his affilaite tags into the text. Free advertising for me, just not in a good way... I remember getting complaints about people who bought this program and thought that we created it!
It's really old, Planet Luck is there... They were the days!!!
pete
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Suka
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| Sept 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM |
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BPS, FENDER
Is bonus hunting a viable option now days? i have gone thrue all the casino's listed, and only one of them offeres a bonus that i can withdraw..
Problem is they dont do business with South Africans.. So
Are you guys still making money? if so.. what are my options?
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BPS
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| Sept 15, 2009 at 02:11 PM |
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The gravy train has slowed up since in the last few years. Seems that the best way is on monthly re-load bonuses.
You can still make a buck, just not 100 bucks per casino. There are some finds out there still.
Being from SA is a good thing, seems you are the next area they want to focus on!
Keep us posted on your hunting.
pete
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